Crypto.com Sends $10.5m To Melbourne Woman

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Australian Thevamanogari Manivel was entitled to a $100 refund from Crypto.com. However, an employee entered an account number in the balance field, and the platform instead transferred her $10.5m. Rather than return the money, she sent it to her sister to buy a house in Craigieburn. 7 months later, Crypto.com realized the error and decided that they would like to collect the funds from her. The matter is still before the courts, and no other user funds were impacted.

About Crypto.com

Crypto.com is a Singapore-based exchange[1] which was founded in 2016[2]. As of November 23rd, 2021, the platform had over 300 employees[1] and served over 10 million customers worldwide[1][2][3].

"CRYPTO.COM EXCHANGE. Trade with confidence on the world’s fastest and most secure crypto exchange." "The World’s Fastest Growing Crypto App" "Buy crypto at true cost. Buy and sell 250+ cryptocurrencies with 20+ fiat currencies using bank transfers or your credit/debit card." "Join 10m+ users buying and selling 250+ cryptocurrencies at true cost. Spend with the Crypto.com Visa Card and get up to 8% back. Grow your portfolio by receiving rewards up to 14.5% on your crypto assets."

Crypto.com shares a strong brand vision for their platform[4].

"Powered by cryptocurrency, the future of the internet: Web3 will be more fair and equitable, owned by the builders, creators and users. You." "We believe it is your basic right to control your money, data and identity."

Like most platforms, they have a full page on their security policies and procedures[5].

"Security First. Always." "Our commitment to our customers is built on trust. We believe that security and data privacy are the foundations of achieving mainstream cryptocurrency adoption."

Crypto.com had recently been pushing hard into the US market with viral advertising stunts including actor Matt Damon, and a $700 million purchase of the naming rights to the Los Angeles Lakers and Clippers Arena[1][6][7]. Crypto.com also has official deals with Formula 1[8], the UFC, with the NBA, with the Philadelphia 76ers, with the NHL, with the Montreal Canadiens, and the Australian Football League[1].

Completion of SOC 2 Compliance Scheme

On November 23rd, 2021, Crypto.com announced their SOC 2 compliance. Jason Lau, Chief Information Security Officer of Crypto.com, made a statement at the time[2].

“Crypto.com is a leader in security and compliance, including our recent SOC 2 announcement, Crypto.com [recently became] the First Cryptocurrency Platform to Achieve SOC 2 Compliance, ISO27001, ISO27701, PCI:DSS 3.2.1 (Level 1), and Highest “Adaptive” maturity levels for the NIST Cybersecurity Framework and NIST Privacy Framework." Crypto.com "successfully completed the Service Organization Control (SOC) 2 Audit, conducted by globally recognized audit and consulting firm Deloitte, which affirms that Crypto.com’s information security practices, policies, procedures, and operations meet the SOC 2 standards for security, availability, confidentiality and privacy."

About Thevamanogari Manivel

Thevamanogari Manivel had migrated to Melbourne, Australia[9] in 2015 from Malaysia, escaping a controlling relationship with her husband[10]. Her plan was to bring her three children to Australia after settling and securing employment. Initially based in Hay, New South Wales, Manivel worked various jobs, including as a motel cleaner, supermarket cashier, cotton farm irrigation worker, and disability care worker. In 2018, she brought her eldest daughter to Australia, and in 2020, she met Jatinder Singh, her partner with an interest in cryptocurrency.

The Reality

It would appear that systems at Crypto.com were not very airtight. It appears that there were no additional checks made on outgoing payments, and that the same individual employees in the platform who process small refunds were authorized to release large sums of funds to customers[9].

What Happened

Thevamanogari Manivel was entitled to a $100 refund from Crypto.com[11]. However, the platform instead transferred her $10.5m[11] because an employee entered an account number in the balance field. Rather than return the money, she kept it, and purchased a large home in Cragieburn for her sister.

Key Event Timeline - Crypto.com Sends $10.5m To Melbourne Woman
Date Event Description
May 2021 Incident Occurred An employee reportedly made a typo and transferred Australian Thevamanogari Manivel over $10.5m instead of transferring her the requested $100 refund[9].
December 2021 Audit Uncovers Mistake The mistake was reportedly uncovered during a company audit[9].
February 2022 Purchase of Craigieburn Home "The court heard that $1.35m of the money had been used to buy a four-bedroom home in Craigieburn in Melbourne’s north in February, and the ownership of the property was then transferred into the name of Manivel’s sister, Thilagavathy Gangadory, who lives in Malaysia."

"The company launched legal action in the Victorian supreme court this year, and in February was granted a freeze on Manivel’s Commonwealth Bank account, but most of the money had been transferred to other accounts – which were later frozen."

August 29th, 2022 6:28:25 PM MDT TickerNews Coverage A news article is published by TickerNews[12] on the situation which explains that Crypto.com accidentally transferred $10.5 million to a woman in Melbourne who was seeking a $100 refund, and it took the company more than seven months to realize the error. The platform launched legal action against two sisters to get the money back and discovered that the cash had already been moved and used to buy a multi-million dollar mansion. A judge has now ordered the property to be sold, with orders made for the remaining money to be returned[9]. TBD improve date.
August 29th, 2022 6:40:02 PM MDT Reddit Thread On Incident The incident is shared on a large Reddit thread, which simply linked to the TickerNews article[13].
August 29th, 2022 6:41:22 PM MDT HeraldSun Report The situation is reported by the HeraldSun[14]. "Crypto.com has launched Supreme Court action against a Melbourne woman and her sister after finding it made an error in sending her $10,474,143" TBD contents behind paywall[15].
August 30th, 2022 6:05:55 AM MDT CryptoFireSide Parody Article CryptoFireSide reports that following Crypto.com's $10.5 million blunder, Binance decided to one-up its rival with a $20 million "accidental" transaction[16]. Allegedly fueled by rivalry, Binance CEO Changping Zhao, or CheeZee, orchestrated the stunt to outshine the competition. Despite attempting to locate a more sensational recipient, such as an LGBT person of color in a wheelchair, he settled for a half-blind old lady. The money, sent as BNB to her account, sat idle for a brief period before the CEO, growing impatient, decided to inform her of the supposed mistake. The satire highlights the competitive nature of the cryptocurrency industry and the quest for attention-grabbing publicity stunts[16]. This article is later reposted on Reddit[17].
August 30th, 2022 6:21:56 AM MDT Blockworks Article Published Blockworks publishes an article about the situation, with a focus on the reported failure to realize the problem for 7 months. “While random errors occur on most platforms, this one is too costly to ignore,” [lexander Tkachenko, CEO of asset tokenization platform VNN ]told Blockworks. Representatives for Crypto.com didn’t return request for comment by press time[18].
August 30th, 2022 11:06:22 AM MDT Ethereum World News Report Ethereum World News reports that Crypto.com is suing an Australian woman after accidentally refunding her $10 million instead of $100. The exchange realized the error during its annual audit, seven months after the erroneous transfer took place. The woman had contacted Crypto.com seeking a $100 refund but was mistakenly issued a refund of $10 million. Instead of reporting the mistake, she used the funds to purchase a mansion in Melbourne. Crypto.com has obtained freezing orders against the woman's bank account but discovered that she had already transferred the funds to a joint account and transferred ownership of the house to someone else. The exchange is now taking legal action to recover the $10 million, and the court has ordered the recipient of the house to pay Crypto.com $1.35 million and sell the property to compensate for the losses[19].
August 31st, 2022 12:46:00 AM MDT The Guardian Article The Guardian covers the situation[20]. Cryptocurrency trading platform Crypto.com accidentally transferred $10.5 million to an Australian woman, Thevamanogari Manivel, during a $100 refund transaction and failed to notice the error for seven months. The company discovered the mistake in December 2021 but had mistakenly transferred the funds to Manivel's account. Legal action was initiated by Crypto.com, and a freeze was granted on Manivel's bank account, but most of the money had already been transferred to other accounts. A portion of the funds, approximately $1.35 million, was used to purchase a property in Melbourne, which was later transferred to the name of Manivel's sister, Thilagavathy Gangadory. Gangadory did not respond to attempts to serve her the freezing orders, and a default judgment was awarded to Crypto.com, ordering Gangadory to sell the property and return the money to the company, along with interest and costs. Crypto.com declined to comment on the case while it was before the court[20].
August 31st, 2022 3:03:55 PM MDT Ars Technica Article ArsTechnica reports on the situation[11]. "Last Friday, Justice James Elliott, a judge for the Victorian Supreme Court in Australia, issued a default judgment in the case. This became necessary because, as Crypto.com alleged in the court document, Manivel and other named defendants, including her sister Thilagavathy Gangadory, failed to respond to a court summons." "Attempting to serve court documents to the sisters, Crypto.com’s legal team reached out to Manivel’s lawyers. The Guardian reported that her lawyers responded just once to confirm receipt. Crypto.com had less success reaching Gangadory, who allegedly never responded to attempts to serve her court documents." "Crypto.com told Business Insider that Manivel's lawyers told the crypto firm that Gangadory is currently seeking legal advice on the default judgment."[11]
September 18th, 2022 10:00:11 AM MDT YouTube Video Coverage The situation is covered in a YouTube video. According to the video, this is not the first time such mistakes have been made by crypto exchanges, with one case involving a $27 million mistake. In the recent case, an Australian woman who received the $10 million used it to buy a house, gave money to friends and family, and then disappeared. The funds belong to users and their use by the woman will have a cost. The consequences of such mistakes can be severe, leading to bankruptcies and customers losing access to their funds[21].
September 8th, 2023 12:07:49 AM MDT Australian news outlet The Age reports that Manivel was arrested attempting to flee Australia with $11,750 in cash[22]. In the County Court, she was sentenced to 209 days in prison, already served after her arrest last year, and an 18-month community corrections order with 200 hours of community work. Manivel returned over $8 million and settled with the crypto company. The judge described her actions as opportunistic and influenced by extraordinary circumstances. The mistake occurred when crypto.com mistakenly deposited $10.5 million instead of a $100 refund into her Commonwealth Bank account. The court found her behavior turned cynical after being warned by the bank about the mistake[22].
September 8th, 2023 12:49:44 AM MDT Reddit Discussion Reddit discussed the incident where Manivel was sentenced to 209 days in prison and an 18-month community corrections order with 200 hours of community work for attempting to flee Australia with $11,750 in cash[23]. This incident followed a significant error by Crypto.com, which mistakenly deposited $10.5 million into her bank account instead of a $100 refund. Manivel transferred $4 million to accounts in Malaysia before the error was discovered six months later. She has since returned more than $8 million and settled with the cryptocurrency company. Redditors express sympathy for her actions, with some suggesting that they might have done the same in such a situation, while others criticize the leniency of the sentence[23].
September 23rd, 2023 6:00:08 PM MDT Guardian Report On Arrest The Guardian reports that Manivel has faced legal consequences, receiving an 18-month community corrections order[10]. Upon realizing the error, she had transferred the funds as instructed by her partner, Jatinder Singh. The money was used to buy properties, vehicles, and transferred overseas. Despite Crypto.com recovering funds and claiming no sinister intent, Singh, charged with theft, awaits a plea hearing. Crypto.com acknowledged the incident and stated it has updated its internal processes for enhanced security and compliance[10].

Technical Details

Cryptocurrency trading platform Crypto.com accidentally transferred $10.5 million to an Australian woman, Thevamanogari Manivel, during a $100 refund transaction and failed to notice the error for seven months[20].

According to the Supreme Court, the situation came about because an employee for Crypto.com entered Thevamanogari's account number in the payment field, where they should have entered the amount of $100[9].

"Cryptocurrency trading platform Crypto.com accidentally transferred $10.5m to an Australian woman when processing a $100 refund, and failed to notice the error for seven months."

"Crypto.com, which operates as Foris GFS in Australia, had paid out $10.5m instead of a $100 refund after Manivel’s account number was accidentally entered into the payment amount field."

The company discovered the mistake in December 2021 but had mistakenly transferred the funds to Manivel's account[20]. Legal action was initiated by Crypto.com, and a freeze was granted on Manivel's bank account, but most of the money had already been transferred to other accounts[20]. A portion of the funds, approximately $1.35 million, was used to purchase a property in Melbourne, which was later transferred to the name of Manivel's sister, Thilagavathy Gangadory[20]. Gangadory did not respond to attempts to serve her the freezing orders, and a default judgment was awarded to Crypto.com, ordering Gangadory to sell the property and return the money to the company, along with interest and costs[20]. Crypto.com declined to comment on the case while it was before the court[20].

Crypto.com is suing an Australian woman after accidentally refunding her $10 million instead of $100[19]. The exchange realized the error during its annual audit, seven months after the erroneous transfer took place[19]. The woman had contacted Crypto.com seeking a $100 refund but was mistakenly issued a refund of $10 million[19]. Instead of reporting the mistake, she used the funds to purchase a mansion in Melbourne[19]. Crypto.com has obtained freezing orders against the woman's bank account but discovered that she had already transferred the funds to a joint account and transferred ownership of the house to someone else[19]. The exchange is now taking legal action to recover the $10 million, and the court has ordered the recipient of the house to pay Crypto.com $1.35 million and sell the property to compensate for the losses[19].

Total Amount Lost

The total amount lost has been estimated at $10,500,000 USD.

"Crypto.com has launched Supreme Court action against a Melbourne woman and her sister after finding it made an error in sending her $10,474,143"

Immediate Reactions

The incident was not noticed or caught at the time[11]. It is unclear what the immediate reactions were from Thevamanogari Manivel.

The error went unnoticed for seven months, and by that time, some of the money had already been spent[11].

Ultimate Outcome

"The recipient, Thevamanogari Manivel, didn’t notify Crypto.com, instead allegedly transferring funds to bank accounts held by her and her family. Crypto.com claims Manivel used the money to buy her sister a modern million-dollar house, complete with a home gym and theater."

Property Purchase In Craigieburn

Crypto.com claims that Manivel used the funds to purchase a $1.35 million house for her sister, Thilagavathy Gangadory[11]. The sister reportedly purchased a large multi-million dollar mansion in Cragieburn[9].

"The court heard that $1.35m of the money had been used to buy a four-bedroom home in Craigieburn in Melbourne’s north in February, and the ownership of the property was then transferred into the name of Manivel’s sister, Thilagavathy Gangadory, who lives in Malaysia."

Judgement Rendered

In a default judgment, the Victorian Supreme Court ordered Gangadory to pay a minimum of $1.35 million, plus interest, and sell the house to return the money and any profits from the sale[11]. Crypto.com froze Manivel's bank account and other accounts linked to the mistaken transfer after discovering the error[11]. The company alleges that Gangadory was "unjustly enriched" by their mistake[11].

"The company launched legal action in the Victorian supreme court this year, and in February was granted a freeze on Manivel’s Commonwealth Bank account, but most of the money had been transferred to other accounts – which were later frozen."

"Last Friday[ August 26th, 2022], Justice James Elliott, a judge for the Victorian Supreme Court in Australia, issued a default judgment in the case. This became necessary because, as Crypto.com alleged in the court document, Manivel and other named defendants, including her sister Thilagavathy Gangadory, failed to respond to a court summons."

"Attempts to serve Gangadory the freezing orders were unsuccessful, as she never responded to emails from Crypto.com’s solicitors. The only communication provided to the court was an email reply to Manivel’s solicitors saying “received, thank you”."

A judge has reportedly ordered the property to be sold and the remaining money to be returned[9].

Controversy Over Service of Documents

Crypto.com's legal team attempted to serve court documents to the sisters using a OneDrive link via email, but Gangadory allegedly never responded[11]. The court determined that the email link was sufficient notice, but the defendants can still challenge the judgment[11]. The case will resume in October to determine the amount Crypto.com will recover[11]. The judgment also highlighted the need for clarification on serving court documents digitally and recommended evaluating case-by-case when it is appropriate to use email links for this purpose[11].

The documents were served via a OneDrive link sent via email with an expiry time of 30 days. According to established Australian law, service by email with a link to view the attachment counts as successfully serving a defendant[11].

The difference matters, Elliott wrote, because not every person will have the technical proficiency to navigate to and review documents on a shared drive. He also wrote that anyone could “justifiably” decide not to click a link in a personal email due to scam risks. However, he ultimately decided that, in this case, the link to the online drive in a personal email was acceptable, partly because courts in other contexts have accepted links to court documents sent via text message.

Discussions on Reddit

Multiple users commented on the situation in a Reddit post[13][24][25][26].

She should tell them to raise a support ticket and she will get around to actioning it over the next 24 months.

7 months to realize? Nice accounting

How many flags will be raised when you just try to deposit 10 million into an account? Where would you even do that at?

Criminal Sentencing

[10]

Judge Martine Marich said in her sentencing remarks that the money had been recovered, and there was no sinister intent proven up to the point where the Commonwealth Bank informed her of the error. “At this point though your behaviour turns cynical and was motivated by self interest,” Marich said. “It represented a shortcut to the financial goal that you had previously endeavoured to pursue through your sheer hard work.”

[22][23]

Total Amount Recovered

The total amount recoverable is still being determined through the courts.

Ongoing Developments

This case is still being collected against.

"Neither Manivel nor Gangadory could be reached by Ars or other outlets for comment. A Crypto.com spokesperson told Ars, “As the matter is before the courts, we are unable to comment.”

The incident disrupted Manivel's visa process, and she is currently pursuing a bachelor's degree in science.

Individual Prevention Policies

This case does not appear to have resulted in a loss to any individual.

When using any third party custodial platform (such as for trading), it is important to verify that the platform has a full backing of all assets, and that assets have been secured in a proper multi-signature wallet held by several trusted and trained individuals. If this can't be validated, then users should avoid using that platform. Unfortunately, most centralized platforms today still do not provide the level of transparency and third party validation which would be necessary to ensure that assets have been kept secure and properly backed. Therefore, the most effective strategy at present remains to learn proper self custody practices and avoid using any third party custodial platforms whenever possible.

For the full list of how to protect your funds as an individual, check our Prevention Policies for Individuals guide.

Platform Prevention Policies

There are multiple policies which apply here.

Implementation of Multi-Signature

While this loss did not involve cryptocurrency funds, the same multi-signature requirement can be instituted at a policy level on outgoing fiat transfers.

All wallets, minting functions, and critical infrastructure should be implemented with a multi-signature requirement, with a recommended minimum of 3 signatures required. This means that making important changes or approving spending will require the keys held by at least 3 separate individuals within the organization to approve. The multi-signature should be implemented at the lowest layer possible, all key holders should have security training, and all key holders should be empowered and encouraged to exercise diligence.

Platform Validation/Inspection

Additional validation and inspection could have uncovered the risks or the loss after it occurred.

All aspects of any platform should undergo a regular validation/inspection by experts. This validation should include a security audit of any smart contracts, reporting any risks to the backing (of any customer assets, ensuring treasuries or minting functions are properly secured under the control of a multi-signature wallet, and finding any inadequacies in the level of training or integrity of the team. The recommended interval is twice prior to launch or significant system upgrade, once after 3 months, and every 6 months thereafter. It is recommended that the third party performing the inspection not be repeated within a 14 month period.

Industry Insurance Fund

In this case, no losses affected any users, but the industry insurance fund would be able to step in in cases where the payment caused the platform to become insolvent.

Work with other industry platforms to set up a multi-signature wallet with private keys held separately by delegate signatories from seven prominent platforms and services within the industry. Establish requirements for contributions by all platforms and services, designed to be affordable for small platforms yet large enough to cover anticipated breach events. Any breach event can be brought forth by a member platform or a petition of 100 signatures for consideration by the delegate signatories. A vote of 4 or more delegate signatures is required to release any funds, which could partially or fully restore lost funds based on their assessment.

For the full list of how to protect your funds as a financial service, check our Prevention Policies for Platforms guide.

Regulatory Prevention Policies

By ensuring that the backing and security of platforms are properly inspected, the issue could have been avoided or dealt with sooner. An industry insurance fund prevents loss to platform users.

Platform Validation/Inspection

Additional validation and inspection could have uncovered the risks or the loss after it occurred.

All platforms should undergo published security and risk assessments by independent third parties. Two assessments are required at founding or major upgrade, one after 3 months, and one every 6 months thereafter. The third parties must not repeat within the past 14 months. A risk assessment needs to include what assets back customer deposits and the risk of default from any third parties being lent to. The security assessment must include ensuring a proper multi-signature wallet, and that all signatories are properly trained. Assessments must be performed on social media, databases, and DNS security.

Industry Insurance Fund

In this case, no losses affected any users, but the industry insurance fund would be able to step in in cases where the payment caused the platform to become insolvent.

Set up a multi-signature wallet with private keys held separately by delegate signatories from seven prominent platforms and services within the industry. Establish requirements for contributions by all platforms and services within the country, designed to be affordable for small platforms yet large enough to cover anticipated breach events. Any breach event can be brought forth by a member platform or a petition of 100 signatures for consideration by the delegate signatories. A vote of 4 or more delegate signatures is required to release any funds, which could partially or fully restore lost funds based on their assessment.

For the full list of regulatory policies that can prevent loss, check our Prevention Policies for Regulators guide.

References

  1. ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 $30 MILLION CRYPTO STOLEN - YouTube (Jan 21, 2022)
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 Crypto.com The Most Secure Crypto Platform Worldwide Adds SOC 2 Compliance (Jan 23, 2022)
  3. ↑ Crypto.com Homepage (Jan 22, 2022)
  4. ↑ Crypto.com About Page (Jan 22, 2022)
  5. ↑ Security - Industry-Leading Security Infrastructure | Crypto.com (Mar 13, 2023)
  6. ↑ Crypto.com CEO admits hundreds of customer accounts were hacked - TechCrunch
  7. ↑ 2FA compromise led to $34M Crypto.com hack – TechCrunch (Jan 22, 2022)
  8. ↑ Formula 1 announce Crypto.com as inaugural global partner of the F1 Sprint series | Formula 1 (Jan 22, 2022)
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 9.5 9.6 9.7 Crypto.com accidentally transfers $10.5m to woman - TickerNews (Sep 27, 2022)
  10. ↑ 10.0 10.1 10.2 10.3 A crypto firm sent a disability worker $10m by mistake. Months later she was arrested at an Australian airport - The Guardian (Jan 23, 2024)
  11. ↑ 11.00 11.01 11.02 11.03 11.04 11.05 11.06 11.07 11.08 11.09 11.10 11.11 11.12 11.13 11.14 Crypto firm accidentally gave $10.5M to sisters, now wants their $1.35M house - Ars Technica (Apr 22, 2023)
  12. ↑ Crypto.com accidentally transfers $10.5m to woman instead of $100 - TickerNews (May 1, 2023)
  13. ↑ 13.0 13.1 Crypto.com accidentally transfers $10.5m to woman instead of $100 : CryptoCurrency (Apr 22, 2023)
  14. ↑ Crypto.com goes to court for $10.5m it incorrectly sent to Melbourne woman - HeraldSun Archive August 29th, 2022 6:41:22 PM MDT (May 1, 2023)
  15. ↑ Crypto.com goes to court for $10.5m it incorrectly sent to Melbourne woman - HeraldSun (May 1, 2023)
  16. ↑ 16.0 16.1 Binance “Accidentally” Sends 20 Million Dollars to Old Lady - CryptoFireSide (Jan 23, 2024)
  17. ↑ Binanse “Accidentally” Sends 20 Million Dollars to Old Lady - Reddit (Jan 23, 2024)
  18. ↑ Crypto.com Sues User After Refunding $10M Instead of $100 - Blockworks (Apr 22, 2023)
  19. ↑ 19.0 19.1 19.2 19.3 19.4 19.5 19.6 Crypto.Com Sues A Woman In Australia After Accidentally Issuing Her A Refund of $10M Instead Of $100 - Ethereum World News (Apr 22, 2023)
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 20.2 20.3 20.4 20.5 20.6 20.7 Cryptocurrency company accidentally transfers $10.5m to Australian woman and doesn’t notice for seven months - The Guardian (Apr 22, 2023)
  21. ↑ Crypto.com's $10,000,000 MISTAKE - YouTube (Apr 22, 2023)
  22. ↑ 22.0 22.1 22.2 Community work for woman who tried to flee Australia after $10.5m crypto error - The Age (Jan 23, 2024)
  23. ↑ 23.0 23.1 23.2 Community work for Thevamanogari Manivel who tried to flee to Malaysia after $10.5m crypto error - Reddit (Jan 23, 2024)
  24. ↑ Deleted Account - "She should tell them to raise a support ticket and she will get around to actioning it over the next 24 months." - Reddit (May 1, 2023)
  25. ↑ hammerandanvilpro - "7 months to realize? Nice accounting" - Reddit (May 1st, 2023)
  26. ↑ peanutbuttergoodness - "How many flags will be raised when you just try to deposit 10 million into an account? Where would you even do that at?" - Reddit (Apr 22, 2023)
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