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Cold storage needs to be a proper multi-signature wallet with all keys stored completely offline. One person should not hold all the keys, especially an unknown person. There needs to be training in place to ensure that all operators are fully aware of best practices.
BitLC was a service provider website which offered a mining pool, online wallet, and a bitcoin exchange. On February 13th, 2013, the website went offline with the founder Jim Nelin claiming that all coins in the cold storage wallet had been taken by an investor named Erick. Users remain with no recovery and limited answers about what happened.
 
This exchange or platform is based in Panama, or the incident targeted people primarily in Panama.


== About Bit LC ==
== About Bit LC ==
"This alleged theft was unique in that coins held in the hot wallet were safe, but coins held in a cold wallet compromised. The thief is not expected to have access to the coins regardless, so there was little financial gain from this theft. Erick, allegedly the only one with physical access to Bit LC Inc.'s cold wallet, has failed to communicate and withdraw coins. Bit LC Inc. therefore was required to declare bankruptcy. There is no proof that Erick intentionally stole the coins; indeed, some evidence asserts that he or she may simply have disappeared in some manner."
The exchange was reportedly based in Panama. Description from the homepage<ref name=":0">[https://web.archive.org/web/20130115223253/https://www.bitlc.net/ BitLC Homepage Archive January 15th, 2013 3:32:53 PM MST] (Jan 26, 2024)</ref>:<blockquote>We are a ''Bitcoin Service Provider'' offering '''free''' and low cost Bitcoin Services, such as a high-end mining pool, online wallet service, bitcoin exchange and a lot more. We're using cutting edge technology to provide you with the best and most secure services available. Our system have full IPv6 support, is built with highest possible security measurements and we're adding new features and services continuously.</blockquote>Website: bitlc.net<ref name=":0">[https://web.archive.org/web/20130115223253/https://www.bitlc.net/ BitLC Homepage Archive January 15th, 2013 3:32:53 PM MST] (Jan 26, 2024)</ref>
 
This exchange or platform is based in Panama, or the incident targeted people primarily in Panama.
 
The background of the exchange platform, service, or individuals involved, as it would have been seen or understood at the time of the events.
 
Include:


* Known history of when and how the service was started.
Director: Javier Lopez<ref>[https://www.dnb.com/business-directory/company-profiles.bit_lc_inc.1a9f584203d2024cc35f3bb33cf15a7f.html Bit LC - DNB Business Directory] (Jan 26, 2024)</ref>
* What problems does the company or service claim to solve?
* What marketing materials were used by the firm or business?
* Audits performed, and excerpts that may have been included.
* Business registration documents shown (fake or legitimate).
* How were people recruited to participate?
* Public warnings and announcements prior to the event.


Don't Include:
Founder: Jim Nelin<ref name="archivearchive-21" /> (BitcoinTalk user Jine<ref name=":2" />). Reportedly from Sweden<ref name=":2" />.


* Any wording which directly states or implies that the business is/was illegitimate, or that a vulnerability existed.
<ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62988.0 <nowiki>[BITLC] Change of payment scheme for Bitlc.net (Previously bitcoins.lc) - BitcoinTalk</nowiki>]</ref>
* Anything that wasn't reasonably knowable at the time of the event.
There could be more than one section here. If the same platform is involved with multiple incidents, then it can be linked to a main article page.


== The Reality ==
== The Reality ==
This sections is included if a case involved deception or information that was unknown at the time. Examples include:
Funds on the BitLC platform cold storage were apparently directly accessible by platform operators including an individual named Erick. There were no access restrictions preventing the entirety of the customer funds from being transferred away from the platform by founder Jim Nelin<ref name=":4">[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10121.msg1533482#msg1533482 Jine - "Mark me as whatever you want, my mission here is to get "my baby" back online and retrieve the funds. This wasn't anything that i either choice nor wanted, if i really wanted to scam anyone, i could have taken out all those funds my self." - BitcoinTalk] (Feb 14, 2024)</ref>.


* When the service was actually started (if different than the "official story").
The homepage of the service emphasized the anonymous nature of the bitcoin network<ref name=":0" />.<blockquote>Bitcoin's peer-to-peer topology and lack of central administration make it infeasible for any authority, governmental or otherwise, to manipulate the value of Bitcoins or induce inflation by producing more of them. It also makes it near-impossible trace to you as a person.</blockquote>
* Who actually ran a service and their own personal history.
* How the service was structured behind the scenes. (For example, there was no "trading bot".)
* Details of what audits reported and how vulnerabilities were missed during auditing.


== What Happened ==
== What Happened ==
The specific events of the loss and how it came about. What actually happened to cause the loss and some of the events leading up to it.
According to reports in February, a large investor of the BitLC exchange platform reportedly took the funds from the cold storage wallet in mid-January.
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!Description
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|February 1st, 2013 12:00:16 AM
|May 22nd, 2011 8:46:40 AM MDT
|First Event
|Jine Account Registration
|This is an expanded description of what happened and the impact. If multiple lines are necessary, add them here.
|Jim Nelin, the founder of BitLC, registers their BitcoinTalk forum account<ref name=":2" />.
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|January 15th, 2013 3:32:53 PM MST
|Website Operating Normally
|The BitLC website is captured and appears to be online and operating normally<ref name=":0" />.
|-
|January 19th, 2013
|Jim Nelin Notices
|According to the report on the site, this is when founder Jim Nelin first became aware that the total of all funds was deficient to pay back customers<ref name="archivearchive-21" />.
|-
|February 13th, 2013
|Website Notice Published
|A notification is published on the bitlc.net website homepage on this date<ref name="archivearchive-21" />, although in one area the date is incorrectly stated as 2012. Erick reportedly "''ha[s]n't been in contact with [Jim], anyone [he] know[s,] or tried to sign in to any of our servers for the past 3 months or so."''
|-
|-
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|March 2nd, 2013 4:10:15 PM MST
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|Capture Of Website Notice
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|The BitLC website is captured with details of the bankruptcy/closure of the BitLC platform<ref name="archivearchive-21" />.
|-
|-
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|July 15th, 2013 11:08:33 PM MDT
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|Jine Reportedly Quitting Bitcoin
|
|In his final post of 2013, Jim Nelin reports that he's "quited the bitcoin-community cause of this, and [he] won't be back anytime soon"<ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10121.msg2739309#msg2739309 Jine - "Well, i appreciate that, but as i said - I've quited the bitcoin-community cause of this, and i won't be back anytime soon. I won't get involved again, I trusted the wrong people and I wont do the same mistake again." - BitcoinTalk] (Feb 13, 2024)</ref>.
|-
|February 11th, 2014 10:06:43 PM MST
|Still No News From Erick
|In one of his posts, Jim Nelin adds a couple of sentences to update that he "still ha[s]n't heard of Erick, and [doesn't] think [he] ever will"<ref name=":3">[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10121.msg5093718#msg5093718 Jine - "By the way - I still haven't heard of Erick, and i don't think i ever will. I haven't visited bitcointalk since my last post, at all." - BitcoinTalk] (Feb 13, 2024)</ref>.
|-
|March 7th, 2014 12:36:26 AM MST
|Last Activity Of Jine
|Jim Nelin's last activity prior to the final login in 2016<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20160320144104/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14418 Profile of Jine - BitcoinTalk Archive March 20th, 2016 8:41:04 AM MDT] (Feb 13, 202$)</ref>.
|-
|August 8th, 2016 12:55:13 PM MDT
|Bitcoin Mining Equipment Sales
|Jim Nelin posts on BitcoinTalk to advertise the sale of mining equipment<ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1579601.msg15860547#msg15860547 <nowiki>[WTS] 9 pcs KnCMiner Jupiter (550GH+ ASICs) - Price: $50/each or offer - BitcoinTalk</nowiki>] (Feb 13, 2024)</ref>.
|-
|November 29th, 2016 10:04:03 AM MST
|Final Jine Login
|The Jine account for Jim Nelin logs into the BitcoinTalk forum for the final time<ref name=":2" />.
|-
|October 23rd, 2023 12:26:09 PM MDT
|New Reddit Thread
|A new Reddit thread is posted on the BitLC theft<ref name=":1">[https://old.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/17erb72/victims_of_bitlcnet_almost_a_decade_ago/ Victims of BitLC.net almost a decade ago - Reddit] (Jan 30, 2024)</ref>.
|}
|}
== Technical Analysis ==
"This alleged theft was unique in that coins held in the hot wallet were safe, but coins held in a cold wallet compromised. The thief is not expected to have access to the coins regardless, so there was little financial gain from this theft. Erick, allegedly the only one with physical access to Bit LC Inc.'s cold wallet, has failed to communicate and withdraw coins. Bit LC Inc. therefore was required to declare bankruptcy. There is no proof that Erick intentionally stole the coins; indeed, some evidence asserts that he or she may simply have disappeared in some manner."
After the fact, Jim Nelin reports on having trust issues with Erick earlier in the process. It appears to suggest that some form of scheme was used to protect the cold storage key, however specific details appear elusive<ref name=":4" />.<blockquote>I couldn't trust even Erick with the encryption key - just to avoid situations like these - where he actually could use the funds.
I'm paranoid in that way of thinking, you wouldn't even begin to understand how much.
I actually had/have (unsure if i still do) a copy of the cold storage wallet to (not identical, but pretty close), encrypted with HIS gpg-key (this way - it became failsafe - it required 2 parties to get access to it).</blockquote>


== Total Amount Lost ==
== Total Amount Lost ==
$51 000 USD
The peak amount of bitcoin on the platform was 8,000 bitcoin, and the final amount was much less than this<ref name=":4" />.
How much was lost and how was it calculated? If there are conflicting reports, which are accurate and where does the discrepancy lie?
 
The total amount lost has been estimated at $51,000 USD.


== Immediate Reactions ==
== Immediate Reactions ==
How did the various parties involved (firm, platform, management, and/or affected individual(s)) deal with the events? Were services shut down? Were announcements made? Were groups formed?
Many users were unaware of the  
 
=== Initial Notice On Bit LC Website ===
The Bit LC website displayed a notice approximately a month after the cold wallet was reportedly emptied<ref name="archivearchive-21" />.
 
<ref>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175693.0</ref><ref>https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=351513.0</ref>
 
=== Community Reactions To Collapse ===
Multiple users posted their reactions on the BitcoinTalk forum<ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10121.msg1528758#msg1528758 ragmondo - "Posting for two reasons - firstly does anybody know what's going on here ? The "press release" raises more questions than it answers .... And also to bump it to the recent posts list." - BitcoinTalk] (Feb 14, 2024)</ref><ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10121.msg1602277#msg1602277 <nowiki>pandemic - "can we get a bit more information about [what] is going on? I read the release but it really answered nothing. There are missing coins and some guy named Erick who could never guess the password or something?!" - BitcoinTalk</nowiki>] (Feb 14, 2024)</ref><ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=10121.msg1766838#msg1766838 organofcorti - "Jine's story does sound like something Elmore Leonard would have written." - BitcoinTalk] (Feb 14, 2024)</ref>.<blockquote>Posting for two reasons - firstly does anybody know what's going on here ? The "press release" raises more questions than it answers .... And also to bump it to the recent posts list.</blockquote><blockquote>can we get a bit more information about wtf is going on? I read the release but it really answered nothing. There are missing coins and some guy named Erick who could never guess the password or something?!</blockquote><blockquote>Jine's story does sound like something Elmore Leonard would have written.</blockquote>
 
=== Denials By Jim Nelin ===
Jim Nelin has denied taking the funds on multiple occasions<ref name=":4" />.<blockquote>Mark me as whatever you want, my mission here is to get "my baby" back online and retrieve the funds.
 
This wasn't anything that i either choice nor wanted, if i really wanted to scam anyone, i could have taken out all those funds my self.
 
If i recall correctly, the record in funds we ever had was close to 8000 BTC at one moment. That's a lot more then what's we're missing now.
 
'''An update tho''':
 
A few interested investors have contacted me the past day wanting to buy-out everything under the agreement of supplying the us with the lost funds.
 
I will keep the contact with them and you some-how updated, and let you know how this turns out.
 
Currently that sounds a awesome solution, as I'm willing to give up everything just to get you funds back.
 
If if i had any savings personally, i would use those to compensate for the lost - trust me.</blockquote>


== Ultimate Outcome ==
== Ultimate Outcome ==
What was the end result? Was any investigation done? Were any individuals prosecuted? Was there a lawsuit? Was any tracing done?
The incident was included in a list posted on the BitcoinTalk forum<ref name="bitcointalklistold-20" /><ref name="bitcointalklist-87" />, and propagated to other lists. Some further updates from Jim Nelin were received, which were not very promising.
=== July 2013 Updates ===
Jine returned to BitcoinTalk in July 2013.<blockquote>You deserve an update regarding this. I can say that nothing what so ever have changed in this matter.
 
I've given up regarding reclaiming the funds. I've personally lost about 228 BTC cause of this - and i know that I'm not alone in that...
 
Erick have been AWOL since the incident and I haven't had any success in contacting him.
 
A friend of mine visited his last know address in NY only to find out that there was noone around by that name.
 
Since the closure of Bitlc.net I've quited the entire bitcoin-community due to this incident. I haven't made a single transaction nor do i have any involvement in either Bit LC Inc. nor the bitcoin community anymore.
 
Bit LC Inc. is (as far as i know) no longer a company - i got a notification about a foreclosure due to unpaid taxes (i think), but as I'm not a board member nor responsible - I don't know anything more than that.</blockquote>
 
=== Final Update - February 2014 ===
A final update from Jine was included with his post in February 2014<ref name=":3" />.<blockquote>'''By the way''' - I still haven't heard of Erick, and i don't think i ever will.
 
I haven't visited bitcointalk since my last post, at all.</blockquote>
 
 
 
Jine went inactive in 2016<ref name=":2">[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14418 Profile of Jine - BitcoinTalk]</ref>.


The BitLC website has been replaced with another cryptocurrency website<ref>https://bitlc.net/</ref>.
== Total Amount Recovered ==
== Total Amount Recovered ==
$0 USD
There do not appear to have been any funds recovered in this case. While some interest was reportedly expressed by potential investors to buy the platform by paying losses<ref name=":4" />, it does not appear that any of those panned out.
What funds were recovered? What funds were reimbursed for those affected users?


== Ongoing Developments ==
== Ongoing Developments ==
What parts of this case are still remaining to be concluded?
A recent Reddit post in 2013 has renewed the calls for an investigation, although the post faced limited engagement by the Reddit community<ref name=":1" />.<blockquote>About 11 years ago there was a mining pool called BitLC.net and it was pretty decent pool. A bunch of people were using it when it suddenly went offline and there is speculation that Jine, the owner, stole the funds.
 
I'm going to consolidate some information here and it's my plan to look into things more. If it seems that the funds are still in a cold wallet and untouched over the past 10 years there likely isn't anything that can be done. If the funds have moved I will look into legal options.</blockquote>


== Prevention Policies ==
== Individual Prevention Policies ==
Coming soon.
{{Prevention:Individuals:Avoid Third Party Custodians}}


== References ==
{{Prevention:Individuals:Store Funds Offline}}
[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.msg923918#post_toc_27 <nowiki>List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses [Old]</nowiki>] (Jan 27)
 
{{Prevention:Individuals:End}}
 
== Platform Prevention Policies ==
Cold storage needs to be a proper multi-signature wallet with all keys stored completely offline. One person should not hold all the keys, especially an unknown person. There needs to be training in place to ensure that all operators are fully aware of best practices.
 
{{Prevention:Platforms:Implement Multi-Signature}}
 
{{Prevention:Platforms:Establish Industry Insurance Fund}}
 
{{Prevention:Platforms:End}}
 
== Regulatory Prevention Policies ==
{{Prevention:Regulators:Platform Security Assessments}}
 
{{Prevention:Regulators:Establish Industry Insurance Fund}}


[http://web.archive.org/web/20130302231015/https://www.bitlc.net/ Bit LC Inc. closing all services, effective immediately - Bitlc.net] (Feb 3)
{{Prevention:Regulators:End}}


[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576337 List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses] (Feb 14)
== References ==
<references>
<ref name="bitcointalklistold-20">[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83794.msg923918#post_toc_27 <nowiki>List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses [Old] - BitcoinTalk</nowiki>] (Jan 28, 2020)</ref>
<ref name="archivearchive-21">[http://web.archive.org/web/20130302231015/https://www.bitlc.net/ Bit LC Inc. closing all services, effective immediately - BitLC Homepage Archive March 2nd, 2013 2:40:08 PM MST] (Feb 4, 2020)</ref>
<ref name="bitcointalklist-87">[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576337 List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses - BitcoinTalk] (Feb 15, 2020)</ref>
</references>

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Bit LC Logo/Homepage

BitLC was a service provider website which offered a mining pool, online wallet, and a bitcoin exchange. On February 13th, 2013, the website went offline with the founder Jim Nelin claiming that all coins in the cold storage wallet had been taken by an investor named Erick. Users remain with no recovery and limited answers about what happened.

About Bit LC

The exchange was reportedly based in Panama. Description from the homepage[1]:

We are a Bitcoin Service Provider offering free and low cost Bitcoin Services, such as a high-end mining pool, online wallet service, bitcoin exchange and a lot more. We're using cutting edge technology to provide you with the best and most secure services available. Our system have full IPv6 support, is built with highest possible security measurements and we're adding new features and services continuously.

Website: bitlc.net[1]

Director: Javier Lopez[2]

Founder: Jim Nelin[3] (BitcoinTalk user Jine[4]). Reportedly from Sweden[4].

[5]

The Reality

Funds on the BitLC platform cold storage were apparently directly accessible by platform operators including an individual named Erick. There were no access restrictions preventing the entirety of the customer funds from being transferred away from the platform by founder Jim Nelin[6].

The homepage of the service emphasized the anonymous nature of the bitcoin network[1].

Bitcoin's peer-to-peer topology and lack of central administration make it infeasible for any authority, governmental or otherwise, to manipulate the value of Bitcoins or induce inflation by producing more of them. It also makes it near-impossible trace to you as a person.

What Happened

According to reports in February, a large investor of the BitLC exchange platform reportedly took the funds from the cold storage wallet in mid-January.

Key Event Timeline - Bit LC Theft
Date Event Description
May 22nd, 2011 8:46:40 AM MDT Jine Account Registration Jim Nelin, the founder of BitLC, registers their BitcoinTalk forum account[4].
January 15th, 2013 3:32:53 PM MST Website Operating Normally The BitLC website is captured and appears to be online and operating normally[1].
January 19th, 2013 Jim Nelin Notices According to the report on the site, this is when founder Jim Nelin first became aware that the total of all funds was deficient to pay back customers[3].
February 13th, 2013 Website Notice Published A notification is published on the bitlc.net website homepage on this date[3], although in one area the date is incorrectly stated as 2012. Erick reportedly "ha[s]n't been in contact with [Jim], anyone [he] know[s,] or tried to sign in to any of our servers for the past 3 months or so."
March 2nd, 2013 4:10:15 PM MST Capture Of Website Notice The BitLC website is captured with details of the bankruptcy/closure of the BitLC platform[3].
July 15th, 2013 11:08:33 PM MDT Jine Reportedly Quitting Bitcoin In his final post of 2013, Jim Nelin reports that he's "quited the bitcoin-community cause of this, and [he] won't be back anytime soon"[7].
February 11th, 2014 10:06:43 PM MST Still No News From Erick In one of his posts, Jim Nelin adds a couple of sentences to update that he "still ha[s]n't heard of Erick, and [doesn't] think [he] ever will"[8].
March 7th, 2014 12:36:26 AM MST Last Activity Of Jine Jim Nelin's last activity prior to the final login in 2016[9].
August 8th, 2016 12:55:13 PM MDT Bitcoin Mining Equipment Sales Jim Nelin posts on BitcoinTalk to advertise the sale of mining equipment[10].
November 29th, 2016 10:04:03 AM MST Final Jine Login The Jine account for Jim Nelin logs into the BitcoinTalk forum for the final time[4].
October 23rd, 2023 12:26:09 PM MDT New Reddit Thread A new Reddit thread is posted on the BitLC theft[11].

Technical Analysis

"This alleged theft was unique in that coins held in the hot wallet were safe, but coins held in a cold wallet compromised. The thief is not expected to have access to the coins regardless, so there was little financial gain from this theft. Erick, allegedly the only one with physical access to Bit LC Inc.'s cold wallet, has failed to communicate and withdraw coins. Bit LC Inc. therefore was required to declare bankruptcy. There is no proof that Erick intentionally stole the coins; indeed, some evidence asserts that he or she may simply have disappeared in some manner."

After the fact, Jim Nelin reports on having trust issues with Erick earlier in the process. It appears to suggest that some form of scheme was used to protect the cold storage key, however specific details appear elusive[6].

I couldn't trust even Erick with the encryption key - just to avoid situations like these - where he actually could use the funds.

I'm paranoid in that way of thinking, you wouldn't even begin to understand how much.

I actually had/have (unsure if i still do) a copy of the cold storage wallet to (not identical, but pretty close), encrypted with HIS gpg-key (this way - it became failsafe - it required 2 parties to get access to it).

Total Amount Lost

The peak amount of bitcoin on the platform was 8,000 bitcoin, and the final amount was much less than this[6].

The total amount lost has been estimated at $51,000 USD.

Immediate Reactions

Many users were unaware of the

Initial Notice On Bit LC Website

The Bit LC website displayed a notice approximately a month after the cold wallet was reportedly emptied[3].

[12][13]

Community Reactions To Collapse

Multiple users posted their reactions on the BitcoinTalk forum[14][15][16].

Posting for two reasons - firstly does anybody know what's going on here ? The "press release" raises more questions than it answers .... And also to bump it to the recent posts list.

can we get a bit more information about wtf is going on? I read the release but it really answered nothing. There are missing coins and some guy named Erick who could never guess the password or something?!

Jine's story does sound like something Elmore Leonard would have written.

Denials By Jim Nelin

Jim Nelin has denied taking the funds on multiple occasions[6].

Mark me as whatever you want, my mission here is to get "my baby" back online and retrieve the funds.

This wasn't anything that i either choice nor wanted, if i really wanted to scam anyone, i could have taken out all those funds my self.

If i recall correctly, the record in funds we ever had was close to 8000 BTC at one moment. That's a lot more then what's we're missing now.

An update tho:

A few interested investors have contacted me the past day wanting to buy-out everything under the agreement of supplying the us with the lost funds.

I will keep the contact with them and you some-how updated, and let you know how this turns out.

Currently that sounds a awesome solution, as I'm willing to give up everything just to get you funds back.

If if i had any savings personally, i would use those to compensate for the lost - trust me.

Ultimate Outcome

The incident was included in a list posted on the BitcoinTalk forum[17][18], and propagated to other lists. Some further updates from Jim Nelin were received, which were not very promising.

July 2013 Updates

Jine returned to BitcoinTalk in July 2013.

You deserve an update regarding this. I can say that nothing what so ever have changed in this matter.

I've given up regarding reclaiming the funds. I've personally lost about 228 BTC cause of this - and i know that I'm not alone in that...

Erick have been AWOL since the incident and I haven't had any success in contacting him.

A friend of mine visited his last know address in NY only to find out that there was noone around by that name.

Since the closure of Bitlc.net I've quited the entire bitcoin-community due to this incident. I haven't made a single transaction nor do i have any involvement in either Bit LC Inc. nor the bitcoin community anymore.

Bit LC Inc. is (as far as i know) no longer a company - i got a notification about a foreclosure due to unpaid taxes (i think), but as I'm not a board member nor responsible - I don't know anything more than that.

Final Update - February 2014

A final update from Jine was included with his post in February 2014[8].

By the way - I still haven't heard of Erick, and i don't think i ever will. I haven't visited bitcointalk since my last post, at all.


Jine went inactive in 2016[4].

The BitLC website has been replaced with another cryptocurrency website[19].

Total Amount Recovered

There do not appear to have been any funds recovered in this case. While some interest was reportedly expressed by potential investors to buy the platform by paying losses[6], it does not appear that any of those panned out.

Ongoing Developments

A recent Reddit post in 2013 has renewed the calls for an investigation, although the post faced limited engagement by the Reddit community[11].

About 11 years ago there was a mining pool called BitLC.net and it was pretty decent pool. A bunch of people were using it when it suddenly went offline and there is speculation that Jine, the owner, stole the funds. I'm going to consolidate some information here and it's my plan to look into things more. If it seems that the funds are still in a cold wallet and untouched over the past 10 years there likely isn't anything that can be done. If the funds have moved I will look into legal options.

Individual Prevention Policies

When using any third party custodial platform (such as for trading), it is important to verify that the platform has a full backing of all assets, and that assets have been secured in a proper multi-signature wallet held by several trusted and trained individuals. If this can't be validated, then users should avoid using that platform. Unfortunately, most centralized platforms today still do not provide the level of transparency and third party validation which would be necessary to ensure that assets have been kept secure and properly backed. Therefore, the most effective strategy at present remains to learn proper self custody practices and avoid using any third party custodial platforms whenever possible.

Store the majority of funds offline. By offline, it means that the private key and/or seed phrase is exclusively held by you and not connected to any networked device. Examples of offline storage include paper wallets (seed phrase or key written down and deleted from all electronic media), hardware wallets, steel wallet devices, etc...

For the full list of how to protect your funds as an individual, check our Prevention Policies for Individuals guide.

Platform Prevention Policies

Cold storage needs to be a proper multi-signature wallet with all keys stored completely offline. One person should not hold all the keys, especially an unknown person. There needs to be training in place to ensure that all operators are fully aware of best practices.

All wallets, minting functions, and critical infrastructure should be implemented with a multi-signature requirement, with a recommended minimum of 3 signatures required. This means that making important changes or approving spending will require the keys held by at least 3 separate individuals within the organization to approve. The multi-signature should be implemented at the lowest layer possible, all key holders should have security training, and all key holders should be empowered and encouraged to exercise diligence.

Work with other industry platforms to set up a multi-signature wallet with private keys held separately by delegate signatories from seven prominent platforms and services within the industry. Establish requirements for contributions by all platforms and services, designed to be affordable for small platforms yet large enough to cover anticipated breach events. Any breach event can be brought forth by a member platform or a petition of 100 signatures for consideration by the delegate signatories. A vote of 4 or more delegate signatures is required to release any funds, which could partially or fully restore lost funds based on their assessment.

For the full list of how to protect your funds as a financial service, check our Prevention Policies for Platforms guide.

Regulatory Prevention Policies

All platforms should undergo published security and risk assessments by independent third parties. Two assessments are required at founding or major upgrade, one after 3 months, and one every 6 months thereafter. The third parties must not repeat within the past 14 months. A risk assessment needs to include what assets back customer deposits and the risk of default from any third parties being lent to. The security assessment must include ensuring a proper multi-signature wallet, and that all signatories are properly trained. Assessments must be performed on social media, databases, and DNS security.

Set up a multi-signature wallet with private keys held separately by delegate signatories from seven prominent platforms and services within the industry. Establish requirements for contributions by all platforms and services within the country, designed to be affordable for small platforms yet large enough to cover anticipated breach events. Any breach event can be brought forth by a member platform or a petition of 100 signatures for consideration by the delegate signatories. A vote of 4 or more delegate signatures is required to release any funds, which could partially or fully restore lost funds based on their assessment.

For the full list of regulatory policies that can prevent loss, check our Prevention Policies for Regulators guide.

References

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 BitLC Homepage Archive January 15th, 2013 3:32:53 PM MST (Jan 26, 2024)
  2. Bit LC - DNB Business Directory (Jan 26, 2024)
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 Bit LC Inc. closing all services, effective immediately - BitLC Homepage Archive March 2nd, 2013 2:40:08 PM MST (Feb 4, 2020)
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 Profile of Jine - BitcoinTalk
  5. [BITLC] Change of payment scheme for Bitlc.net (Previously bitcoins.lc) - BitcoinTalk
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 Jine - "Mark me as whatever you want, my mission here is to get "my baby" back online and retrieve the funds. This wasn't anything that i either choice nor wanted, if i really wanted to scam anyone, i could have taken out all those funds my self." - BitcoinTalk (Feb 14, 2024)
  7. Jine - "Well, i appreciate that, but as i said - I've quited the bitcoin-community cause of this, and i won't be back anytime soon. I won't get involved again, I trusted the wrong people and I wont do the same mistake again." - BitcoinTalk (Feb 13, 2024)
  8. 8.0 8.1 Jine - "By the way - I still haven't heard of Erick, and i don't think i ever will. I haven't visited bitcointalk since my last post, at all." - BitcoinTalk (Feb 13, 2024)
  9. Profile of Jine - BitcoinTalk Archive March 20th, 2016 8:41:04 AM MDT (Feb 13, 202$)
  10. [WTS] 9 pcs KnCMiner Jupiter (550GH+ ASICs) - Price: $50/each or offer - BitcoinTalk (Feb 13, 2024)
  11. 11.0 11.1 Victims of BitLC.net almost a decade ago - Reddit (Jan 30, 2024)
  12. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175693.0
  13. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=351513.0
  14. ragmondo - "Posting for two reasons - firstly does anybody know what's going on here ? The "press release" raises more questions than it answers .... And also to bump it to the recent posts list." - BitcoinTalk (Feb 14, 2024)
  15. pandemic - "can we get a bit more information about [what] is going on? I read the release but it really answered nothing. There are missing coins and some guy named Erick who could never guess the password or something?!" - BitcoinTalk (Feb 14, 2024)
  16. organofcorti - "Jine's story does sound like something Elmore Leonard would have written." - BitcoinTalk (Feb 14, 2024)
  17. List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses [Old] - BitcoinTalk (Jan 28, 2020)
  18. List of Major Bitcoin Heists, Thefts, Hacks, Scams, and Losses - BitcoinTalk (Feb 15, 2020)
  19. https://bitlc.net/